This isnt like a BURNER tjis is an account I made and used when I was super young and I hope you haven’t missed deleting anything embarrassing off of it but I just need to talk about this somewhere. Today my mum(40f) told me once I(15f) got home that the school had called and said my brother(16m) had been accused of creating an account on one of those ai chatbot apps of his classmates. However, before the school had called my brother messaged her saying it wasn’t true.
Of course me and my mum were heartbroken at the idea of him being accused like that, so we all sat together and spam reported the account and all of the bots. However, when looking at them I pointed out that they had specific details about these girls no one but him would know, such as a girl who doesn’t even go to our current school being on there that he knew because she was in MY class at our old school. I came to the conclusion that it must be someone he knows really well, but then I noticed almost half of the bots were all girls he’s been talking to/in a relationship before and the other half were all very clearly his type, including a girl who I know semi-personally.
All of these bots had message counts of at least triple digits, with the highest being the girl I know with over 100k users having spoken to her. My brother has always been seen as a ‘gentleman’ and ‘ladies man’ by our family, and any worries I’ve ever brought up (such as the time he was speaking to a girl who was freshly 14 when he was 16) have been spun as me being bitter. However, whenever anyone suggests either getting the police involved or finding the IP of the user, he gets defensive and flat out angry and it’s really worrying me because it’s making me think he did it.
My mum brought the idea up but when I spoke about how it worried me she said he could be practicing talking to girls’ as if A) he needs any practice with that ROSTER of his, B) you wouldn’t use zendaya to practice to and C) it’s ok to use girls personal information on a public chatbot site where you have to confirm you’re 18+ to use it. Once my dad got home, I vented to him about it and he said it was ‘the exact same as the time he found images of me on my laptop’ and proceeded to tell me about the time him and his friends beat a kid up with rocks. What the fuck? I don’t really have anything else to say and I don’t really know why I’m posting this but I don’t know if I’m overreacting or not, ok thats it pls let me know
I’m a little confused about this chatbot thing but it does sound sketchy and like your brother was at least involved more deeply than he is admitting. I don’t think yta for being concerned.
If you mean you don’t know what they are, there’s websites and apps where people make ai designed to be celebrities or fictional characters or whatever and 99% of the time it’s used to ‘get off’ and stuff which number 1 ew number 2 theyre like so bad for the environment
yeah that’s kinda what I figured – not great! feels pretty invasive to be creating ‘versions’ of those based on people you know in real life.
NTA – This is just a real life example of ‘boys will be boys’ culture leading to these kinds of toxic men, and I hate to say it, but your brother is definitely behind the bots. That said, I’m not sure how you could help your parents to see it seriously, as they seem well practiced in rug sweeping behaviours
Its so weird to think my MUM of all people would do something like this because she is like EXTREMELY pro feminism she’s like super woke and taught me to stand up for what’s right but as soon as it’s her son it’s ok???? Its so out of character for her
I thoroughly hate and despise the boys will be boys bullshit.
Okay, first of all, the thing with rocks is a separate matter… but for now, defend your brother. Who would even make a problem out of this? It honestly seems ridiculous. Chatbot, as in it chats with you? Has he committed any kind of crime? Is he making money off it? even if he was, so what, why would the school or anyone else’s opinion even matter? Is he using the bots to slander people?
I apologize if I’m coming off a bit crude… but either I’m misunderstanding some serious implications, or this is being overexaggerated. It really feels a bit outlandish that this could even be considered a problem. Did he break a law? Do these people “own” that specific personality? Like, if I wrote a book about someone in my class and they didn’t like it, would that make me a lawbreaker?
I think I worded the post wrong, don’t worry about being crass! Your totally fine bro, basically he’s found images of these girls that aren’t on any of their public social medias somehow and posted them with information about their personal lives on an 18+ website where people typically use these specific bots to ‘get off’ because of the lack of a filter with none of these girls consent, along with all except either 2 or 3 explicitly talking about not talking to boys in that way for religious reasons, along with all of these bots being under categories such as ‘flirty’ ‘seductive’ ‘NSFW’. I just think underage girls’ images and information shouldn’t be used in that way, wether it’s my brother doing it or not
I’m also having a hard time understanding this. Are they unclothed pics of these girls? And they’re in HS? If so how would he have gotten the unclothed pics of these girls? Are you saying he made these images by using AI? Why would he be accused of this? Has he done anything similar?( If I was being accused of something I didn’t do I’d be furious and defensive as well.
They aren’t NUDE images but all of them r not on any of their social medias and a handful look rather ‘intimate’, all of these girls are 15-16, and he’s being accused because the account is his full legal name
I see. Outside of Chatgpt, I don’t really interact with AI, so I may have misunderstood the severity at first. Damaging someone’s image like that *is* serious. If your brother really did those things, then yes, shame on him. He’s still young, but that doesn’t excuse it, and there should be consequences.
Originally, I interpreted what you were saying as *“My brother made a bunch of AI personalities based on schoolmates to chat with or share online.”* That, on its own, didn’t sound inherently malicious to me. I’ve customized my own AI on Chatgpt in a similar way, though mine were for discipline and motivation purposes, and were not based on real people.
That said, if these bots were using real identities, personal details, or were publicly accessible in a way that misrepresented or sexualized people, then that’s a very different situation. At that point, it stops being harmless experimentation and becomes genuinely wrong.
If it’s confirmed that your brother is responsible, I think your family should take it seriously but handle it constructively. I’d recommend your father having a direct, firm conversation with him, restricting access to his devices for a significant period, and requiring him to take responsibility, especially by apologizing to anyone whose reputation he may have damaged. Accountability matters her not just punishment.
At the same time, it’s still important to be certain it was actually him before assuming. False accusations or malicious pranks *do* happen, and the response should match the truth of the situation.
>the school had called and said my brother(16m) had been accused of creating an account on one of those ai chatbot apps of his classmates.
Like he fed private information like their home address into a chat bot? Or like he named a chatbot “jessica” and he happens to have a classmate named Jessica?
Because one is harmless creepy and the other is concerningly creepy.
>I pointed out that they had specific details about these girls no one but him would know, such as a girl who doesn’t even go to our current school being on there that he knew because she was in MY class at our old school.
You say “specific details no one but him would know” then list a detail that literally everyone that had any interaction with that girl would know.
>My brother has always been seen as a ‘gentleman’ and ‘ladies man’ by our family, and any worries I’ve ever brought up (such as the time he was speaking to a girl who was freshly 14 when he was 16)
This really sounds like you don’t like your brother and are upset that other people have a positive view of him so you try to find any reason to vilify him. Like the fact that he was “speaking to” a girl 2 years younger than him is a HILARIOUS reason to try to get mad at him. Oh gosh the horror of …. a very normal thing.
>when I spoke about how it worried me she said he could be practicing talking to girls’ as if A) he needs any practice with that ROSTER of his,
You seem bitter that your brother gets more girls than you do.
>B) you wouldn’t use zendaya to practice to
Why not?
>C) it’s ok to use girls personal information on a public chatbot site where you have to confirm you’re 18+ to use it.
You have not given a single example of any personal information.
From what I can tell actually happened here, your brother (who you are jealous of) made some chatbots with the same names as girls he knows. He did nothing inappropriate and shared no personal information more than a school and a name, but you’re trying to find some way to be enraged about this.
1 – information about their personal lives. Like, one of them had the girls exact bodily measurements and when I said it was weird he said “shes not 4’11 though shes 5’1” 2 – one of these girls he has never mentioned to anyone in his life because he never spoke to her and she got moved cross city because she had a mental health episode years ago and now she’s at a ‘farm school’ and no one from our school knows she exists because our old school was this derelict Catholic school an hour away with FOUR (including me and my older brother) pupils who attended it at my new school, and the other two werent tjere when she was. 3 – I DO like my brother? Obviously? He’s my brother? He’s been there for me through everything and the assumption that I ‘don’t like him’ is weird that’s literally my brother, plus the girl was FRESHLY 14 as in he had waited for her to turn 14 before he told anyone they were talking, they started ‘talking’ that way when he was 16 and she was 13 which is 3 years OKAY but like is that not the smallest bit odd? 4 – I don’t care about his love life and I care even less about mine I have school work to focus on. 5 – because using images of real teen girls (which are NOT on their social media profiles btw so it’s not public information), 6 – I think I answered tjis in 1 but I might be wrong sorry anyways why are you assuming I’m jealous of my brother? I’m proud of every accomplishment of his and even MORE proud of my own, the idea that he could have POSSIBLY did this makes me feel sick because it’s not something I would see him doing. Also, I forgot to mention this in the post so my mistake, every last one of them was behind a ‘NSFW filter’, meaning you have to verify your age legally to even SEE them, also meaning any and all inappropriate content is filtered. I think it’s weird you would need to be an adult to talk to a chatbot of a child and having the option to use this chatbot designed around a real minor to discuss sexual acts it just rubs me the wrong way