So my friend bought a Toyota Supra about 3 months ago which is his daily driver and had 11k miles when purchased. Just recently we were driving it at this warehouse with a long strip of pavement to have some fun.
Before I say anything I am first going to say my buddy beats on his car he’s recently started drifting, not a crazy amount but drifting none the less. He’s always going fast and does many pulls which including revving and dropping clutch. And neither one of us knew what a CDV was and what it does I’ll get back on that later.
So back to what happened we were at the warehouse with my friend the(Supra owner John)and another buddy(Jacob). First Jacob was driving John’s Supra back and forth multiple times (quickly) then john once or twice then I drove it back and forth for a combined total of driving fast for less than 2 minutes and I daily drive a manual so I’m very fluent and I know not to ride a clutch. And while driving his car (quickly as we all were) his revs would not dip down while up shifting and would kind of stay around same spot and kind of rev hang which was weird but both he and I have had this problem before when driving the Supra with no clutch issue after. So at the end of my second quick drive some smoke started coming from under the car and it smelled very much like burned clutch. I should also say I didn’t go over 80 and never once went over 6k rpm.
so fast forward and now his clutch slips and will be replaced. Now I wasn’t for a second riding the clutch but after some research it turns out this piece called a CDV limits the release of the clutch when clutching in and out quickly. So the clutch wasn’t fully engaged so it was rubbing and heating up and wearing out even though my foot was completely off the clutch. The car had a mind of its own in a sense it would slow the release of the clutch regardless of my inputs (assuming I’m not granny shifting) and this is what helped put the clutch out. But my friend also had this problem happen to him multiple times on the highway and he didnt know what it was but we had our assumptions of why it would do that mechanically, which we now know were wrong.
So I feel I was driving at the wrong time because I think the clutch was getting close to the end of its life I believe a brand new out of the box clutch would have been able to handle the clutch cdv abuse and drove fine after. and it wasnt my sole two pulls that put the clutch out of commission but rather all of them. One more thing John let one of his work buddies drive his Supra maybe a couple weeks to a month before this and he actually full on rode the clutch which gave off the burnt gun powder smell( which John says didn’t smell as strongly as when I drove it ).
So? Am I at fault? Should he assume responsibility when letting other people drive his car? Should I pay for some of the new clutch and labor which is expected around $2700. Gracias for your opinions
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Clicked here because I thought it was about a designer handbag.
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Wow was this annoying to read.
Still, NTA. He’s the owner and is allowing friends to drive the car like idiots and is doing it right along with you. His car, his clutch, his problem.
You guys aren’t ready for cars. Try bicycles for a few years.
You’re all dumbasses for continuing to mistreat a car that’s obviously having issues shifting and thinking it won’t eventually break. But at the end of the day it’s not your car or your call, it’s your buddy’s. Pretty expensive lesson tho.
NTA. Your friend did this to himself by beating on a car and allowing people to drive it and do the same to a car that is his DD. Especially when he knew there was something on the car allowing the clutch to slip. I have a car I beat on like that. But I also have another vehicle. Because shit breaks a lot when you’re hard on vehicles.
Gotta pay to play.
ESH. John shouldn’t let any one drive his car the way you all are driving it unless he’s willing to pay for repairs. On top of that, he doesn’t even understand how it works. But that doesn’t let you off the hook.
Are y’all 16? #1. You don’t beat up your daily driver. #2. You don’t beat up a car you can’t afford to fix. Hopefully lessons learned.
lol I thought you meant a purse ESH
Im disappointed. I only even clicked on this bcuz I thought the “clutch” in question was a designer purse 👛!!! All of you are the AH. Don’t drive like AHs if you don’t want to pay for car repairs.
NTA i also daily a manual ( mind you not as cool as a supra. 2010 matrix) if someone asks to drive it i ask them if they’re gonna buy me a clutch if they fuck it up? It’s mostly a joke, but it’s usually enough of a deterrent.
I dont beat on my car either cause its a daily. I need to rely on it to get to work.
Your buddy sounds like he was beating the shit out of an old car without knowing everything about it, and now he’s pissed that it broke. He doesn’t wanna take responsibility for letting people beat on it and now wants to blame you.
If he expected you or anyone else to fix it, if the clutch went, then he should have stated that at the beginning.
It’s a clutch. They wear out. Thats what they do. If you crashed the car and caused some damage that way, then I’d say help him out, but he wanted to play race car, and now he’s dealing with race car shit. Maybe next time he’ll take better care of the thing.